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[ASTRO] Re: she's an indies rocker, no one's gonna stop her
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Don't wanna drag this tired thread out too far, but...
I really was just trying to be funny. Didn't anyone find the
image of black velvet paintings of sad-eyed and pierced punk
orphans funny? I'm going to have to actually create the damned
monstrosity now. The black velvet painting muse hasent bitten
me for a few years, I guess it's time again.
Of course my nature/capitalism simile is flawed. Similes always
break down when you analyze them.
It came off like I was making excuses for big evil record labels.
To the contrary, my intention was to caution artists against trusting
people just because they slap the word "independant" in front of
their company name. Further, I intended to caution artists and fans
against expending precious lifespan on drowning in their own bile
because they want to change the behavior of others. It _is_ a simple
fact of life that you can't change what other people do, only what
choices you make. Just call me Deepak Chowderhead.
Some people are just going to be usurouos assholes. Learn how to recognize
and avoid them. Fighting them just wears you out and gives them cheap
amusement. All IMHO, of course.
Mookie
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, un chein andalou wrote:
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> At 9:43 AM -0700 4/19/99, Michael Kepler wrote:
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> >This whole discussion is so charmingly naive. I picture black velvet
> >paintings of sad-eyed orphan punkers. You know the ones, with the giant
> >dark pools for eyes, bespeaking profound innocence, only now they also have
> >short spiky hair and multiple body piercings.
> >
> >My favorite part is "...they could easily become as big as Geffen or Sony...".
> >Easily? In their dreams!
> >
> >They're _all_ "in it for the money", to try to say this is good or bad is
> >like trying to say that mountain lion is good or bad for killing little
> >fluffy bunnies. It isn't good or bad; it is a simple fact of life.
> >As Bubbles of The Power Puff Girls would say: "Duh!".
> >
> >Mookie
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> i kept wondering if you actually read my message. being in it for the money
> and making money are completely different concepts.....labels like sub pop
> and touch and go and whatever else weren't started by buisiness grads
> looking for an opportunity to make some cash. somewhere in the past, these
> labels as well as hundreds just like which most likely failed were started
> because someone loved music and wanted to put out a record. just because
> they got "lucky" (which is disputable.....i'd hardly say that being 40%
> owned by sony or whoever it is that has sub pop is "lucky" for a label) and
> are making money doesn't mean that they are in it for the money. there is a
> huge idealogical gulf seperating most indies and the big 6. an indie label
> is not going to put out just any kind of music because it might be the next
> big thing, and they are not going to force it to be the next big thing by
> buying it airtime on the radio and mtv (yes yes, it is merely a form of
> advertising, which is essential if you want to sell records, but there's a
> difference). i found it charmingly naive that you compare the workings of
> capitalism to nature. you can't change nature, so of course you can't say
> wether it is good or bad. it is possible for man-made systems to run
> differently than they do. we (collectively) created them, and we can change
> them whenever we want. because of this it is essential to ask wether the
> way these systems work is good or bad. sure, it's not inhertently either
> but that doesn't mean we can't form opinions based on the results we see
> these systems creating. apples and oranges.
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